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Re: [WSMTE] WSMTE



Laura has a fabulous idea. Let's do put this on our agenda for the 28th at UWSP -- Judy, can you get things set-up for us? Perhaps from 10 to 2 with an 'in-house' lunch with CMENC reps?
Vanissa
Dr. Vanissa B. Murphy, Coordinator
Division of Music Education, Professor
Department of Music and Theatre Arts
University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
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From: Laura Sindberg [laura.sindberg@lawrence.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:16 AM
To: Murphy, Vanissa B.
Cc: Gregory Dennis; rtownsend@mbbc.edu; malamont@greenwood.k12.wi.us; musiceducation@lists.uwosh.edu
Subject: Re: [WSMTE] WSMTE

Hello All--

Well, this certainly sounds ripe for a research project. What do we know about what is happening in relation to multiple, post-degree certification, anyhow?

I'd be willing to work on something WITH multiple colleagues. Perhaps we could address this on 28 Feb.

Cheers,
Laura


On Jan 13, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Murphy, Vanissa B. wrote:

Dear Greg,
I know that many of us have worked with add-on certifications as independent studies but, as you know, we cannot provide any additional certification to PI 3 licenses without following mandates set first and foremost by DPI and then carried out by our university within, in many cases, both the music departments and schools/colleges of education. Perhaps there is more to Marixa's situation than any of us understand but I do know that any MUED faculty that I know across this state would be glad to talk with her and figure out what she needs to do in order to add this certification and meet the requirements of the education departments & licensing agent at the university. The Center is providing many professional development opportunities that will help educators get some of the coursework they need in order to add certifications. Right now we have been focusing upon providing coursework for general music. It is very hard for current music educators to be put in a situation by t
 heir school districts in which they find themselves needing an additional certification. I certainly would be glad to talk with any of the 14 people that you mention so that their needs are better understood.

Vanissa
Dr. Vanissa B. Murphy, Coordinator
Division of Music Education, Professor
Department of Music and Theatre Arts
University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
________________________________________
From: Gregory Dennis [dennisg@uwplatt.edu<mailto:dennisg@uwplatt.edu>]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:23 PM
To: rtownsend@mbbc.edu<mailto:rtownsend@mbbc.edu>; malamont@greenwood.k12.wi.us<mailto:malamont@greenwood.k12.wi.us>
Cc: feayshaw@uwm.edu<mailto:feayshaw@uwm.edu>; Murphy, Vanissa B.; rtownsend@mbbc.edu<mailto:rtownsend@mbbc.edu>; musiceducation@lists.uwosh.edu<mailto:musiceducation@lists.uwosh.edu>
Subject: Re: Re: [WSMTE] WSMTE

Dear University Music Educators,

     My question to all of you is, what are you doing for those public and private school teachers who
are being asked (told, if they want to keep their jobs) to teach in an area of music that they are
not certified, and "Oh, by the way, you'll need to get certified"?  Over the last eight years about 14
people from all over the state contacted me at UW-Platteville about that very issue.  These were
people who had gotten their degrees from your universities, but no one would work with them
individually to help them get their additional certification once they were out teaching, unless they
stopped teaching, and came back to school (and sometimes not even if they were willing to do
that).  One young lady who is currently teaching in Greenwood, WI (I won't mention her name)
and is instrumentally certified contacted me last spring.  She was asked to teach both instrumental
and choral and I know she is very capable.  She contacted four universities (I won't mention who
you are.) and nobody would help her including the university from which she graduated.
     Well, I'm retired now.  I started off this school year thinking I could help her, but have found it
impossible.  My replacement at UW-P is very capable, but like all first year college teachers, is
overwhelmed.  Somebody please help Marixa LaMont.  Oh, I said that I wasn't going to mention
her name.  I know that you don't get paid for working with people one on one.  It shouldn't be the
way it is, but that is the way it is.  I don't want to make Marixa the poster child for this issue and I
know that you are trying to prevent this issue for future teachers.  But for a lot of music educators
in our state, this is a serious problem, NOW.

     Most sincerely,

                  Gregory Dennis, UW-Platteville
                  Retired

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Townsend <rtownsend@mbbc.edu<mailto:rtownsend@mbbc.edu>>
To: Sheila J Feay-Shaw <feayshaw@uwm.edu<mailto:feayshaw@uwm.edu>>
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:20:19 -0600
Subject: Re: [WSMTE] WSMTE

Our Instrumental and Choral programs both include early and middle
childhood General. We also feel that this is a more practical package.

Rick

On Jan 12, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Sheila J Feay-Shaw wrote:

UWM offers each certification separately (General, Choral,
Instrumental) but then we also have programs designed Choral/
General and Instrumental/General which are the ones we promote for
most students to do. We feel they are more marketable in two areas.

Sheila

Sheila J. Feay-Shaw, PhD
Assistant Professor of Music Education
Peck School of the Arts
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
P.O. Box 413
Milwaukee, WI 53201-0413
414-229-5163
feayshaw@uwm.edu<mailto:feayshaw@uwm.edu>



----- Original Message -----
From: "Laura Sindberg" <laura.sindberg@lawrence.edu<mailto:laura.sindberg@lawrence.edu>>
To: "Vanissa B. Murphy" <MURPHYVB@uwec.edu<mailto:MURPHYVB@uwec.edu>>
Cc: "WI Society for Music Teacher WI Society for Music Teacher
Education List" <musiceducation@lists.uwosh.edu<mailto:musiceducation@lists.uwosh.edu>>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:35:46 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
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Subject: Re: [WSMTE] WSMTE


Hello All-


I would like to pose a certification question: What certifications
to you offer at your particular institutions?


Many thanks, and happy new year!


Laura





On Jan 6, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Murphy, Vanissa B. wrote:



Greetings, everyone,
Happy 2009! I hope you have had a nice winter break and enjoyed the
holidays. Attached to this email are the minutes from our meeting
in October and at the end of the minutes are our ideas for topic
discussion and resource sharing for our next meeting. And, it is
time for us to try and create a date for that meeting that we
usually schedule in late February. I am thinking that it might be a
good idea to vary the location of our February meetings so that
those of you who want to host the meeting would have that
opportunity. I would be glad to host the next meeting at UWEC but
if any of you want to host, please let me know and we'll discuss
location and date together.


So, to get this conversation started, we could meet at UWEC on
Saturday, Feb. 21, from 9 to 12 or, if you prefer, 10 to 1. If you
would rather have the meeting more centrally located, we have often
met at UWSP (what do you think, Judy?) but I am open to anyone's
suggestion!


Thanks and I hope to hear from you soon,
Vanissa
Dr. Vanissa B. Murphy, Chair
Wisconsin Society for Music Education
Division of Music Education, Professor
Department of Music and Theatre Arts
University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire <WSMTE Minutes from Oct.doc>
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Visiting Associate Professor
Lawrence University Conservatory of Music
PO Box 599
Appleton, WI 54912
laura.sindberg@lawrence.edu<mailto:laura.sindberg@lawrence.edu>